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Shows for the weekend of September 20, 2025


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15 minutes ago, Suburbanbandfan said:

I have a photo but I don’t know how to add photos on here!! Grr

I think I have attachment posting turned off for everyone but admins.  
 

One of these days I’ll sit down and figure out how to reinstate the groups that we had on the old forums so you have to have a number of posts before you can create a topic.

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25 minutes ago, Dan Balash said:

I think I have attachment posting turned off for everyone but admins.  
 

One of these days I’ll sit down and figure out how to reinstate the groups that we had on the old forums so you have to have a number of posts before you can create a topic.

Work doesn’t need you to be productive tomorrow 🙂

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11 hours ago, Dan Balash said:

Truly wild recap.

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I think so too. All bands 5th to 1st were within 2.5 points. All bands in class 3a did great and also topped 4a! I watched both classes, some of 4a shows aren't finished yet, which is okay. Also scores for music performance is very interesting. My predictions were wrong(Yes I didnt show my predictions.) Everyone's shows are strong and i'm looking forward to ISU. 

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5 hours ago, IL Band Newcomer said:

I think so too. All bands 5th to 1st were within 2.5 points. All bands in class 3a did great and also topped 4a! I watched both classes, some of 4a shows aren't finished yet, which is okay. Also scores for music performance is very interesting. My predictions were wrong(Yes I didnt show my predictions.) Everyone's shows are strong and i'm looking forward to ISU. 

Very solid showing for Naperville Central sitting at 85 kids and could have been in 2A. Unfortunately they won't be at ISU or U of I this season.

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Thoughts on NIU

1. Why are bands getting scores in the 30s/40s? Do these judges not understand this isn’t DCI. Are these judges the same each year. I wouldn’t want to come back to NIU if I know bands are getting low balled. We wonder why programs aren’t competing anymore. 
 

2. Top three were Hersey, Romeoville, and Oswego. Davenport Central didn’t have much success here, but scored higher last week at Andrew. Nice to see Waukee NW. There program was nice to watch. 
 

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45 minutes ago, Dan Balash said:

NIU 1A:

  1. 50.450 - H.D. Jacobs (Visual, GE)
  2. 48.300 - Coal City
  3. 47.900 - Lakes Community (Music)
  4. 39.950 - Crete-Monee
  5. 39.350 - Richards
  6. 37.850 - Genoa-Kingston
  7. 36.000 - Marengo

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There was a GE tie for 1A.

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27 minutes ago, Suburbanbandfan said:

Thoughts on NIU

1. Why are bands getting scores in the 30s/40s? Do these judges not understand this isn’t DCI. Are these judges the same each year. I wouldn’t want to come back to NIU if I know bands are getting low balled. We wonder why programs aren’t competing anymore. 
 

2. Top three were Hersey, Romeoville, and Oswego. Davenport Central didn’t have much success here, but scored higher last week at Andrew. Nice to see Waukee NW. There program was nice to watch. 
 

This contest also does not have any band guides and the warm up field is sort of a free for all. I know a lot of groups that have been frustrated by this.

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33 minutes ago, Suburbanbandfan said:

Thoughts on NIU

1. Why are bands getting scores in the 30s/40s? Do these judges not understand this isn’t DCI. Are these judges the same each year. I wouldn’t want to come back to NIU if I know bands are getting low balled. We wonder why programs aren’t competing anymore. 
 

2. Top three were Hersey, Romeoville, and Oswego. Davenport Central didn’t have much success here, but scored higher last week at Andrew. Nice to see Waukee NW. There program was nice to watch. 
 

I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that the score is out of 80 instead of 100, but I agree. I think, historically, there've been some low scores.  80 or 100 scores in the 20s and 30s seem a little outrageous to me.

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11 minutes ago, Zdsmith said:

I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that the score is out of 80 instead of 100

 

So one contest is scored out of 80, Geneseo is scored out of how many? 1000? 1200? Moves up and down like the powerball? If I need a formula to understand your score, can't you just help us all out and score these shows out of 100?

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Directors: Email Phantom Regiment and NIU and tell them that this is unacceptable.  This has happened for several years now with low scores and other concerns.  Hopefully the tapes are reflecting the scores given, but I doubt it.

There are other shows with a big time feel (EIU, WIU, ISU, U of I) that would be more than happy to have you and won't screw you over.  

 

This is an expensive show to attend ($375, plus optional addons).  This should be a quality show.  

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4 hours ago, RightFootCONTRAian said:

 

So one contest is scored out of 80, Geneseo is scored out of how many? 1000? 1200? Moves up and down like the powerball? If I need a formula to understand your score, can't you just help us all out and score these shows out of 100?

As a director I just wish we could get on the same page. You know how hard it is to explain to teenagers that the points are, sometimes, literally made up? Lol.

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4 hours ago, Dan Balash said:

Directors: Email Phantom Regiment and NIU and tell them that this is unacceptable.  This has happened for several years now with low scores and other concerns.  Hopefully the tapes are reflecting the scores given, but I doubt it.

There are other shows with a big time feel (EIU, WIU, ISU, U of I) that would be more than happy to have you and won't screw you over.  

 

This is an expensive show to attend ($375, plus optional addons).  This should be a quality show.  

I mean though, it's not the worst scoring this show has ever seen!  I present to you the 2010 Red & Black Fall Classic, which I believe was the first time held in DeKalb in conjunction with NIU.   

https://ilmarching.com/festivals_detail.php?FestivalID=173&archive=0
https://ilmarching.com/uploads/rbfcrecap2010.pdf

Visual Performance Individual (10 points) was quite a doozy.  Judged by 2007 Phantom Regiment drum major Darian Sanders, Class A ranged from 0.65 (Genoa-Kingston) to 1.90 (T.F. South).  AA from 0.85 (Evanston) to 2.40 (Wheaton Warrenville South).  AAA from 1.65 to 3.05.  AAAA from 1.75 to a robust 4.20.

We had overall scores ranging from a 16.80 (again, poor Genoa-Kingston) to your champions in Prospect with a 75.55.  The range in A was 16.80-44.40, AA was 26.10 to 52.50, AAA 35.50-67.40, and AAAA from 25.20 - 75.55

 

 

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5 minutes ago, moverholt said:

Optional Addons? What is this, a used car dealership?? Could bands pay for the undercoating on instrument cases?

Genuinely curious what optional addons are? 

1 hour preshow clinic at NIU - $300

2 hour clinic at school on Friday with clinicians - $450

Instant feedback with clinician after performance; 15-25 minutes - $150

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18 hours ago, Zdsmith said:

As a director I just wish we could get on the same page. You know how hard it is to explain to teenagers that the points are, sometimes, literally made up? Lol.

This is being worked on at the contest host level. A great deal of unification has been going on in the background and we hope to see even more clarity going forward into future seasons.

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