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Last weekend of the Illinois season already?  3 shows in state, and BOA Indianapolis is this weekend as well.

 

Bands of America Super Regional Championships: Indianapolis, IN

Friday, October 24th

 

11:30 AM: Owen Valley, IN
11:45 AM: Crawford County, IN
12:00 PM: Wilmington, OH
12:15 PM: Edgewood, IN
12:30 PM: Greenwood, IN
12:45 PM: Lafayette Jefferson, IN
1:00 PM: Norwell, IN
1:15 PM: Victor J. Andrew
1:30 PM: Perry Central, IN
1:45 PM: William Henry Harrison, OH
2:00 PM: Terre Haute North, IN
2:15 PM: Pendleton Heights, IN

 

2:30 PM: Break

 

3:00 PM: Center Grove, IN
3:15 PM: Archbishop Alter, OH
3:30 PM: Paoli, IN
3:45 PM: Terre Haute South, IN
4:00 PM: Springs Valley, IN
4:15 PM: Beech Grove, IN
4:30 PM: Mahomet-Seymour
4:45 PM: Carroll, IN
5:00 PM: Avon, IN
5:15 PM: Bloomington

 

5:30 PM: Break

 

6:15 PM: Northwestern, IN
6:30 PM: Jeffersonville, IN
6:45 PM: LaSalle, OH
7:00 PM: Ben Davis, IN
7:15 PM: Franklin Central, IN
7:30 PM: Lawrence Township, IN
7:45 PM: Columbus North, IN
8:00 PM: Floyd Central, IN
8:15 PM: Orleans, IN
8:30 PM: Greenfield Central, IN
8:45 PM: Forest Park, IN
9:00 PM: Homestead, IN

 

Saturday, October 25th

7:30 AM: Monrovia, IN
7:45 AM: Kettering Fairmont, OH
8:00 AM: Castle, IN
8:15 AM: Prospect
8:30 AM: Romeoville
8:45 AM: Lockport Township
9:00 AM: Lake Park

9:15 AM: Lindbergh, MO
9:30 AM: Lincoln-Way East
9:45 AM: Lake Central, IN

 

10:00 AM: Break

 

10:30 AM: Bentonville, AR
10:45 AM: Centerville, OH
11:00 AM: Morton
11:15 AM: Limestone Community

11:30 AM: Clinton, MS
11:45 AM: Marian Catholic
12:00 PM: Rock Island
12:15 PM: Naperville North
12:30 PM: Providence Catholic

12:45 PM: Jefferson City, MO

 

1:00 PM: Break

 

1:30 PM: Carmel, IN
1:45 PM: Franklin, TN
2:00 PM: O'Fallon Township
2:15 PM: Munster, IN
2:30 PM: Pearl, MS
2:45 PM: Normal Community
3:00 PM: Concord, IN
3:15 PM: Bellbrook, OH
3:30 PM: Rockwood Summit, MO
3:45 PM: Parkway South, MO

 

4:15 PM: Awards

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Oblong Spooktacular: Oblong, IL

Class 1A
10:00 AM: Lawrenceville
10:15 AM: Arcola
10:30 AM: Sullivan
10:45 AM: Pana
11:00 AM: Bement

 

11:15 AM: Break

 

Class 2A
12:15 PM: Casey-Westfield
12:30 PM: East Richland
12:45 PM: Mt. Carmel
1:00 PM: Salem

 

1:15 PM: Break

 

Class 3A
1:30 PM: Robinson
1:45 PM: Newton

 

2:00 PM: Drumline Exhibition

 

Class 1A
3:30 PM: Heritage

 

Class 2A
3:45 PM: Danville
4:00 PM: Rich Central

 

Exhibition
4:15 PM: Oblong

 

4:30 PM: Awards

 

7:00 PM Parade Start

After Parade DJ + Dance on Field

10:00-10:30 Parade Awards

 

Pinckneyville Mardi Gras Field Show and Parade: Pinckneyville, IL

Parade:

Exhibition

Pinckneyville Junior HS

Pinckneyville Community

Class JH
DuQuoin Middle School

 

Class 1A
Okaw Valley

Shawnee

Blue Ridge

Sesser-Valier
Elsberry, MO

AC Central

 

Class 2A
Civic Memorial

Mexico, MO

Massac County

DuQuoin

Columbia
Mascoutah

Class 3A

Hazelwood Central, MO

Belleville West
 

Field:

Class 1A
1:00 PM: Blue Ridge
1:14 PM: Johnston City
1:28 PM: Okaw Valley
1:42 PM: Sesser-Valier
1:56 PM: Nashville Community

 

Class 2A
2:10 PM: Civic Memorial
2:24 PM: Mexico, MO
2:38 PM: Murphysboro
2:52 PM: Massac County
3:06 PM: Mascoutah

 

3:20 PM: Break

 

Class 3A
3:34 PM: Mt. Vernon
3:48 PM: Northwest, MO
4:02 PM: Hazelwood Central, MO
4:16 PM: Belleville West
4:30 PM: Mehlville, MO

 

Exhibition
4:44 PM: Pinckneyville Community

 

4:58 PM: Awards

 

Downers Grove South Marching Mustang Music Bowl: Downers Grove, IL

Class 2A
11:30 AM: Rochelle Township

Class 1A
11:45 AM: Waukegan
12:00 PM: Niles West
12:15 PM: William Howard Taft
12:30 PM: Dwight D. Eisenhower
12:45 PM: Watseka Community

 

1:00 PM: Break

Class 1A
1:30 PM: Thornton Fractional South

Class 2A
1:45 PM: Yorkville
2:00 PM: Herscher
2:15 PM: Alan B. Shepard
2:30 PM: Lincoln-Way Central
2:45 PM: LaSalle-Peru

 

3:00 PM: Break

 

Class 2A
3:15 PM: Batavia
3:30 PM: A.A. Stagg

 

Class 1A
3:45 PM: Metamora
4:00 PM: Eureka

 

Class 3A
4:15 PM: Waukesha North, WI
4:30 PM: Glenbrook South
4:45 PM: Plainfield North

 

Class 2A
5:00 PM: Lemont

 

Exhibition
5:15 PM: NIU Huskie Marching Band

 

5:30 PM: Awards

7:00 PM: Finals Begin (3 class winners+next 7 highest scoring bands)

9:45 PM: Downers Grove South (in Exhbition)

10:00 PM: Awards

 

Judging Panel:

Music Individual: Tom Bough
Music Ensemble: Dan Belongia
Visual Individual: Erica Bough
Visual Ensemble: Andy Schmidt
Music General Effect: Mark Ponzo
Music General Effect: Steven Steele
Visual General Effect: Brent Turner
Color Guard: Don Wiles
Drum Major: Brayer Teague
Percussion: Kevin Lepper
Timing and Penalties: George Pierard
Announcer: Jon Hansen

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Last weekend of the Illinois season already?  3 shows in state, and BOA Indianapolis is this weekend as well.

 

Bands of America Super Regional Championships: Indianapolis, IN

Friday, October 24th

 

11:30 AM: Owen Valley, IN

11:45 AM: Crawford County, IN

12:00 PM: Wilmington, OH

12:15 PM: Edgewood, IN

12:30 PM: Greenwood, IN

12:45 PM: Lafayette Jefferson, IN

1:00 PM: Norwell, IN

1:15 PM: Victor J. Andrew

1:30 PM: Perry Central, IN

1:45 PM: William Henry Harrison, OH

2:00 PM: Terre Haute North, IN

2:15 PM: Pendleton Heights, IN

 

2:30 PM: Break

 

3:00 PM: Center Grove, IN

3:15 PM: Archbishop Alter, OH

3:30 PM: Paoli, IN

3:45 PM: Terre Haute South, IN

4:00 PM: Springs Valley, IN

4:15 PM: Beech Grove, IN

4:30 PM: Mahomet-Seymour

4:45 PM: Carroll, IN

5:00 PM: Avon, IN

5:15 PM: Bloomington

 

5:30 PM: Break

 

6:15 PM: Northwestern, IN

6:30 PM: Jeffersonville, IN

6:45 PM: LaSalle, OH

7:00 PM: Ben Davis, IN

7:15 PM: Franklin Central, IN

7:30 PM: Lawrence Township, IN

7:45 PM: Columbus North, IN

8:00 PM: Floyd Central, IN

8:15 PM: Orleans, IN

8:30 PM: Greenfield Central, IN

8:45 PM: Forest Park, IN

9:00 PM: Homestead, IN

 

Saturday, October 25th

7:30 AM: Monrovia, IN

7:45 AM: Kettering Fairmont, OH

8:00 AM: Castle, IN

8:15 AM: Prospect

8:30 AM: Romeoville

8:45 AM: Lockport Township

9:00 AM: Lake Park

9:15 AM: Lindbergh, MO

9:30 AM: Lincoln-Way East

9:45 AM: Lake Central, IN

 

10:00 AM: Break

 

10:30 AM: Bentonville, AR

10:45 AM: Centerville, OH

11:00 AM: Morton

11:15 AM: Limestone Community

11:30 AM: Clinton, MS

11:45 AM: Marian Catholic

12:00 PM: Rock Island

12:15 PM: Naperville North

12:30 PM: Providence Catholic

12:45 PM: Jefferson City, MO

 

1:00 PM: Break

 

1:30 PM: Carmel, IN

1:45 PM: Franklin, TN

2:00 PM: O'Fallon Township

2:15 PM: Munster, IN

2:30 PM: Pearl, MS

2:45 PM: Normal Community

3:00 PM: Concord, IN

3:15 PM: Bellbrook, OH

3:30 PM: Rockwood Summit, MO

3:45 PM: Parkway South, MO

 

4:15 PM: Awards

I saw something on-line today that I'd like to get some clarification on with respect to BOA competitions.  It seems that Lawrence Township in Indiana is fielding a combined band "The Pride of Lawrence Township" from Lawrence Central and Lawrence North High Schools.  If this is indeed a fact, why are bands being allowed to "combine" in this way?  I thought the band had to be from one high school not from a collection of high schools?  The state of Indiana does not allow them to compete in state contests but BOA allows them to compete?  This seems entirely wrong on the face of it and has me wondering how many other hybrid bands there are in BOA competitions?  According to Wikipedia these two schools combined account for nearly 5000 students in grades 9-12.  Does anybody else find this troublesome?  If not, how would you feel about a Broken Arrow, Owasso, and Union combined band called the Pride of Tulsa?

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I saw something on-line today that I'd like to get some clarification on with respect to BOA competitions. It seems that Lawrence Township in Indiana is fielding a combined band "The Pride of Lawrence Township" from Lawrence Central and Lawrence North High Schools. If this is indeed a fact, why are bands being allowed to "combine" in this way? I thought the band had to be from one high school not from a collection of high schools? The state of Indiana does not allow them to compete in state contests but BOA allows them to compete? This seems entirely wrong on the face of it and has me wondering how many other hybrid bands there are in BOA competitions? According to Wikipedia these two schools combined account for nearly 5000 students in grades 9-12. Does anybody else find this troublesome? If not, how would you feel about a Broken Arrow, Owasso, and Union combined band called the Pride of Tulsa?

There is an excellent article on Indiana Marching that explains the situation. This is completely legal and the Pride of Lawrence Township is a combination of only the marching bands of Lawrence North and Central. The schools have not merged. Yes they are also competing in ISSMA too. Also this I believe is the only one. You could never combine Owasso, Broken Arrow and Union because they are not part of the same district nor do I think they would ever want to.

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I saw something on-line today that I'd like to get some clarification on with respect to BOA competitions.  It seems that Lawrence Township in Indiana is fielding a combined band "The Pride of Lawrence Township" from Lawrence Central and Lawrence North High Schools.  If this is indeed a fact, why are bands being allowed to "combine" in this way?  I thought the band had to be from one high school not from a collection of high schools?  The state of Indiana does not allow them to compete in state contests but BOA allows them to compete?  This seems entirely wrong on the face of it and has me wondering how many other hybrid bands there are in BOA competitions?  According to Wikipedia these two schools combined account for nearly 5000 students in grades 9-12.  Does anybody else find this troublesome?  If not, how would you feel about a Broken Arrow, Owasso, and Union combined band called the Pride of Tulsa?

 

This would be kind of impossible, because BA/Owasso/Union are all in different school districts.  Anyways, this is correct.  LC/LN have merged into the Pride of Lawrence Township, something that's been in the works for quite some time.  Also, Plymouth-Canton has done this ever since they've been competing: There's actually 3 schools there: Plymouth, Canton, and Salem.  They have 6,000+ students.

 

http://www.indianamarching.com/features/2014/09/05/a-new-beginning-in-lawrence-township/

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This would be kind of impossible, because BA/Owasso/Union are all in different school districts.  Anyways, this is correct.  LC/LN have merged into the Pride of Lawrence Township, something that's been in the works for quite some time.  Also, Plymouth-Canton has done this ever since they've been competing: There's actually 3 schools there: Plymouth, Canton, and Salem.  They have 6,000+ students.

 

http://www.indianamarching.com/features/2014/09/05/a-new-beginning-in-lawrence-township/

Well color me dumbfounded and quite frankly disappointed.  I was under the impression that bands were competing against one another's schools not against the best from a combination of schools?  This certainly creates a climate of competition over fairness and equality.  It was bad enough that parochial schools, who can recruit their members, compete against schools who are at the mercy of district boundaries.  As to the LC/LN situation, all school districts are having financial difficulties in supporting their marching bands.  That's why many have privately ran booster clubs that raise funding to support their band.  What message are we sending our kids when groups they're competing against can either recruit or combine to increase their competitive edge?  I guess I'm naive in thinking that we were trying to create a climate of competition that was built upon equal and fair treatment for all schools...

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Well color me dumbfounded and quite frankly disappointed. I was under the impression that bands were competing against one another's schools not against the best from a combination of schools? This certainly creates a climate of competition over fairness and equality. It was bad enough that parochial schools, who can recruit their members, compete against schools who are at the mercy of district boundaries. As to the LC/LN situation, all school districts are having financial difficulties in supporting their marching bands. That's why many have privately ran booster clubs that raise funding to support their band. What message are we sending our kids when groups they're competing against can either recruit or combine to increase their competitive edge? I guess I'm naive in thinking that we were trying to create a climate of competition that was built upon equal and fair treatment for all schools...

Like Dan said, this is not something that they just decided on. I pretty sure this has been festering for years (I assume the same went with PCEP too). Especially for a district of that caliber, I really could care less. Additionally for any district to think so highly of both programs to allow this so the students have the best maximum experience is phenomenal. If more schools thought about this I really couldn't care at all (Lincoln Ways are the first that come to mind). Promotes more unity within the district. Furthermore this may also be the catalyst for that district to eventually combine schools because of their financial struggles. I cannot wait to see their show this year (The Green Table) and wish them the best of luck for the years to come.

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Since this Topic page is "Shows for the Weekend", maybe we should get back on topic...Any friendly predictions for shows this weekend? Unfortunately, Waukegan is still on strike and will not be participating at the DGS Music Bowl. Rochelle Township will move into their performance timeslot at 11:45 AM.

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I'm going to give Indy a shot. Mainly because I know absolutely nothing about the rest of the shows this weekend.

1 - Avon, IN

2 - Carmel, IN

3 - Homestead, IN

4 - Lake Central, IN

5 - Lawrence Township, IN

6 - Marian Catholic, IL

7 - Center Grove, IN

8 - Prospect, IL

9 - Franklin, TN

10 - Centerville, OH

11 - Ben Davis, IN

12 - O'Fallon, IL

13 - Castle, IN

14 -Bellbrook, OH

Truthfully, those last 4 or 5 spots could be up to 10 other bands altogether, in my opinion. Lockport, LWE, and Lake Park have outside shots at Finals, and will probably be in the 15-20 range. It'll be close.

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A couple of thoughts... Morton, Marian Catholic and any other smaller school who achieves huge success in student involvement and program quality still are being evaluated on the field in a contest, with judges. This is more like figure skating in the subjective sense, than football. You cannot compare the two and to punish schools of smaller size for turning out such a quality band by elevating them in class is not fair on any level. What if that band happens to have a down year and could have perhaps won their class to qualify for finals, but are stuck in a higher class because of a track record of success? I do not believe that sticking such bands in higher classes is fair to those kids who are fighting on the bubble, that just so happen to go to a larger high school.

 

 

Leave things the way that they are. The multiplier was put in place because sports teams had an unfair advantage of 'recruiting' athletes, in some high school situations. Not because of the arts.

 

 

INDIANAPOLIS REGIONAL: I think anyone in the top four can probably win the regional, including Avon, Carmel, Marian Catholic and Homestead. The edge most certainly must go to any of those Indiana bands over the latest offering from Marian Catholic, but what will be most interesting, as usual, is the point spread as Grand Nationals is three weeks, not two and not one away. At this stage, it appears that Lake Central or Lawrence Township should slide somewhere into the Top 7, but behind Marian and/or Homestead.

 

I think that several Illinois bands have an excellent chance at making Top 14 Finals. The only locks though are Marian Catholic and Prospect. O'Fallon looks strong, Lockport Township, perhaps. Lake Park, maybe. And others, but the top two at ISU, barring collapse, will be on the field. Marian is the only group in the top half of finalists as well as the AA Champion.

 

My unofficial predictions (groupings), based on nothing other than a gut.

 

1-4 (Very confident it will be these four....)

 

Avon, Carmel, Marian, Homestead

 

5-11

Lake Central, Lawrence Township, Centerville, Prospect, O'Fallon Twp., Castle, Center Grove

 

12-14

Franklin, Lockport Twp., Ben Davis

 

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Legit chance: Bentonville (AR), Lake Park (IL), Columbus North (IN)

 

Odds (of winning):

 

Avon  2:1

Carmel: 4:1

Homestead 10:1

Marian 25:1

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I'm going to give Indy a shot. Mainly because I know absolutely nothing about the rest of the shows this weekend.

 

1 - Avon, IN

2 - Carmel, IN

3 - Homestead, IN

4 - Lake Central, IN

5 - Lawrence Township, IN

6 - Marian Catholic, IL

7 - Center Grove, IN

8 - Prospect, IL

9 - Franklin, TN

10 - Centerville, OH

11 - Ben Davis, IN

12 - O'Fallon, IL

13 - Castle, IN

14 -Bellbrook, OH

 

Truthfully, those last 4 or 5 spots could be up to 10 other bands altogether, in my opinion. Lockport, LWE, and Lake Park have outside shots at Finals, and will probably be in the 15-20 range. It'll be close.

 

Why do you have Castle so low? They beat Lake Central, Center Grove, Franklin, and Ben Davis at Louisville. I think they'll be top 5. 

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I'll add my picks ...

1. Avon

2. Carmel

3. Homestead

4. Marian 

5. Castle

6. Center Grove

7. Lawrence Township

8. Franklin

9. Lake Central

10. Prospect

11. O'Fallon Township

12. Centerville

13. Ben Davis

14. Columbus North

 

Other possible finalists: Bentonville, Lake Park, Lockport or Greenwood

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Castle won't be able to hang against elite competition in the late season to break into the Top 5. I wouldn't call any of those bands they bested Top 4. But 5-11 will be interesting. I don't think there's a huge difference between 5-11 in this show. I expect to see very different prelims/finals placements.

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The Pinckneyville competition should be a good one in AA Field. Murphysboro will be going for the clean sweep, so far they have finished first in every class they have competed in this year. Mascoutah will be tough, although they have competed already in the same competition this year and Murphysboro won on total points. Mascoutah has a real good show and if Murphysboro stumbles look for them to win. (Murphysboro won first in 2A with all captions and the small school Grand Champ with a 82.55 at McKendree and Mascoutah was third in 4A with a score of 80.20) Mascoutah's band and school is about twice the size of Murphysboro. 


 


Usually, every band has a real bad performance sometime in the year and that has yet to happen to the Crimson Express. Hopefully it is not this week. I have never seen Mexico or Civic Memorial. 


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Why do you have Castle so low? They beat Lake Central, Center Grove, Franklin, and Ben Davis at Louisville. I think they'll be top 5. 

 

They beat Franklin, which, honestly, wasn't exactly difficult to do early season.  That show went nowhere.

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Why do you have Castle so low? They beat Lake Central, Center Grove, Franklin, and Ben Davis at Louisville. I think they'll be top 5. 

Castle is very strong towards the beginning of the season, but once you get into late October/early November, they've already peaked and can't really get much further up in the rankings. Now that's not to say that this doesn't happen to other programs, but it doesn't really happen to the rest of the bands I think will be in the top 14.

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Also, my current 14:
1) Avon

2) Homestead

3) Marian Catholic

4) Carmel

5) Lawrence Township

6) Lake Central

7) Castle

8) Prospect

9) Centerville

10) Franklin

11) Center Grove

12) O'Fallon Township

13) Concord

14) Greenwood

 

No, I don't have Ben Davis currently in finals.  It's a tough regional, and they haven't scored particularly well this year. There's about 5-10 other bands that have a shot at making finals here as well: Greenwood, Lockport, LWE, Lake Park, Ben Davis, Columbus North, Bentonville.

 

I kind of like this as a middle of the season regional, as it gives Marian 2.5 weeks to clean, clean, clean.  They have the vehicle to do very well this year - it just has to get cleaned.

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Dan, do you know if what I saw last weekend is Marian Catholic's full production?

 

Also, my current 14:
1) Avon

2) Homestead

3) Marian Catholic

4) Carmel

5) Lawrence Township

6) Lake Central

7) Castle

8) Prospect

9) Centerville

10) Franklin

11) Center Grove

12) O'Fallon Township

13) Hickory

14) Concord

 

No, I don't have Ben Davis currently in finals.  It's a tough regional, and they haven't scored particularly well this year. There's about 5-10 other bands that have a shot at making finals here as well: Greenwood, LWE, Lake Park, Ben Davis, Columbus North, Bentonville.

 

I kind of like this as a middle of the season regional, as it gives Marian 2.5 weeks to clean, clean, clean.  They have the vehicle to do very well this year - it just has to get cleaned.

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Downers Grove South

Class 1A: 1) Eureka 2) Metamora 3) T.F. South

Class 2A: 1) Lincoln-Way Central 2) Lemont 3) Batavia

Class 3A: 1) Plainfield North 2) Waukesha North 3) Glenbrook South

 

Finalists: Eureka, LWC, Plainfield North, Waukesha North, Glenbrook South, Lemont, Batavia, Alan B. Shepard, Metamora, LaSalle Peru 

 

Champion: Plainfield North

 

Pinckneyville:

Class A: 1) Okaw Valley 2) Johnston City 3) Blue Ridge

Class AA: 1) Murphysboro 2) Mascoutah 3) Massac County

Class AAA: 1) Mehlville 2) Belleville West 3) Northwest

Grand Champion: Belleville West, based on combined parade+field.

 

 

Dan, do you know if what I saw last weekend is Marian Catholic's full production?

 

That's a good question.  It seems short for a Marian show, and the ending (which was the same at ISU) seems to be a tag ending for the time being.  

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Dan ... is Hickory going?  I don't see them on the list.  Maybe you have room for Ben Davis now.

 

Why did I think they were going to Indy?  They're going to Newark.  Derp.

 

Move Concord up, throw Greenwood in there. :)

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Also, I would be remiss if I didn't post this.  Downers Grove South will be webcasted for free this weekend:  http://www.highschoolcube.com/event/12th-annual-marching-mustang-music-bowl-at-downers-367057

Indy will be webcasted for $19 for the webcast, or $59 for the package, which gives you access to old videos as well as webcasts of San Antonio, Atlanta, and Grand Nationals.

 

http://www.musicforall.org/video/live-webcast-schedule

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I was thinking the same, but unlike some of their more obvious temporary ending stuff, this one (I think oxygen bubbles), was pretty cool visually and could be a nice ending, allbeit a bit short.

 

 

Downers Grove South

Class 1A: 1) Eureka 2) Metamora 3) T.F. South

Class 2A: 1) Lincoln-Way Central 2) Lemont 3) Batavia

Class 3A: 1) Plainfield North 2) Waukesha North 3) Glenbrook South

 

Finalists: Eureka, LWC, Plainfield North, Waukesha North, Glenbrook South, Lemont, Batavia, Alan B. Shepard, Metamora, LaSalle Peru 

 

Champion: Plainfield North

 

Pinckneyville:

Class A: 1) Okaw Valley 2) Johnston City 3) Blue Ridge

Class AA: 1) Murphysboro 2) Mascoutah 3) Massac County

Class AAA: 1) Mehlville 2) Belleville West 3) Northwest

Grand Champion: Belleville West, based on combined parade+field.

 

 

 

That's a good question.  It seems short for a Marian show, and the ending (which was the same at ISU) seems to be a tag ending for the time being.  

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