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I decided to split this post off from the 2009 contests thread, because I stumbled upon a Introductory letter for the 2009 contest, which is discussed in the second post.

 

ISU posted their 2009 application, as well as the 2009 judging panel:

 

Here's projected class sizes:

1A-1-500

2A-501-1000

3A-1,001-1500

4A-1,501-2000

5A-2,001-2500

6A-2,500+

 

 

Judging panel, which has a few surprising names:

 

Music:

Stan Schoonover-conductor, Fairfax Wind Symphony, music specialist, Fairfax County schools

 

Wayne Dillon-brass Caption head, Boston Crusaders drum corps, director of bands, Upper Academy High School (New Jersey)

 

Sue Samuels-Director of Bands at the University of Alabama at Birmingham

 

Joel Denton-director of bands, Ooltewah High School

 

Beth Fabrizio-brass staff, Boston Crusaders drum corps, instrumental teacher, Hilton Central School District, New York.

 

Joseph H. Allison-director of bands, Eastern Kentucky University

 

Darrin Davis-director of bands, Broken Arrow High School

 

Freddie Martin-founder, Spirit drum and bugle corps

 

 

Visual:

 

Marie Czapinski-BOA/WGI/DCI clinician

 

Timothy Ochran-former DCI visual caption head, adjudicator, writer, clinician, Director, Music for All Board of Directors

 

Michael Gray-caption administrator for ensembles, WGI

 

JR Carlisle-BOA/DCI/WGI adjudicator

 

Eric Sabach-Director of Business Development & Marketing, Carolina Crown, former corps director of the Blue Stars, former staff multiple drum corps.

 

John Howell-BOA/WGI/DCI adjudicator.

 

 

 

Now, on to the prelims schedule (as of August 5th):

Class 1A

7:14 Illinois Valley Central

7:28 Olympia

7:42 Eureka

7:56 Herscher

8:10 University

8:24 Johnston City

 

8:38 Break

 

Class 2A

8:52 Marengo

9:06 Salem

9:20 Morton

9:34 Lincoln-Way West

9:48 Dunlap

10:02 Geneseo

 

Class 4A

10:16 Normal Community

 

10:30 1A/2A Awards

 

Class 3A

10:58 Kaneland

11:12 Marian Catholic

11:26 Limestone

11:40 Urbana

 

11:54 Break

 

Class 4A

12:08 Metamora

12:22 United Township

12:36 Romeoville

12:50 Lincoln-Way North

1:04 Bloomington

1:18 Argo

 

Class 3A

1:32 Rock Island

1:46 Urbana

 

2:00 Class 3A and 4A Awards

 

Class 5A

2:28 Normal West

2:42 A.A. Stagg

2:56 Lincoln-Way East

3:10 A.A. Stagg

3:24 Wheaton Warrenville South

3:38 Pekin

3:52 Minooka

4:06 Wheaton North

 

4:20 Break

 

Class 6A

4:34 Downers Grove South

4:48 Naperville North

5:02 Lincoln-Way Central

5:16 Waubonsie Valley

5:30 Lake Park

5:44 Joliet West

5:58 Victor J. Andrew

6:12 Warren Township

6:26 Lockport

 

6:40 BRMM

 

6:54 Class 5A/6A Awards

 

7:04 Announcement of Finalists

 

8:00 Finals begin

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I decided to look at the 2009 ISU page, and came upon this:

 

http://www.bands.ilstu.edu/downloads/ChampionshipCoverLetter2009.pdf

 

 

There are a few major changes for 2009:

-Ken Snoeck (former Lake Park director) is now Chief Judge and Adjudication Coordinator.

-There will now be 2 separate panels for prelims and finals. (7 judges for each round, Music Performance Individual/Ensemble, Visual Performance Individual/Ensemble, Music General Effect 1&2, and Visual General Effect). In other words, judges that judge prelims will NOT judge finals, and vice versa.

-Elimination of Color Guard and Percussion judges. The color guard will now be evaluated by the visual judges and percussion by the music judges.

-There will now be a "high achievement in visual performance" caption. This will be figured by the average of the visual performance individual and visual performance ensemble scores. The music caption stays the same, and the high achievement in effect caption will be the sum of the 2 music effect judges and the 1 visual effect judge.

 

 

Thoughts? I absolutely love these changes. This is definitely a step in the right direction.

 

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i agree with the different panels, but will severly miss the percussion and color guard judges at our "state champs"

Granted, they don't matter to the overall score, but it was something the kids in the sections hoped for and worked for

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i agree with the different panels, but will severly miss the percussion and color guard judges at our "state champs"

Granted, they don't matter to the overall score, but it was something the kids in the sections hoped for and worked for

The color guard and percussion sections should be working to be apart of the entire package...not an entity of its own within a production. I would think and hope that the goal would be to produce success for the entire marching band, not just one section. These two sections are already judged in more then one caption. You dont have "best clarinets" or "outstanding trombones." Good music and visual judges will be making apropos comments about all sections. Need or want specialized feedback on your percussion or color guard...hire a clinician or participate in the indoor portion of these activities.

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Now, with these class size ranges, does that seem to be changing anyone this year? Or is it the same as last year's ranking? It seems to me that last year's was different, but I can't say that I remember it that well.

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Now, with these class size ranges, does that seem to be changing anyone this year? Or is it the same as last year's ranking? It seems to me that last year's was different, but I can't say that I remember it that well.
Looking at last year's bands by enrollment .pdf that ISU put out, here's how the classes basically broke down last year:

 

1A:1-699

2A: 700-999

3A: 1,000-1,599

4A: 1,600-2,000

5A: 2,001-2,500

6A: 2,501 + (smallest school was Lake Park last year at 3,000)

 

 

Now, if IHSA could get their 2009-2010 enrollments up, I could do a basic estimate of who's going to be in what class.

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Now, with these class size ranges, does that seem to be changing anyone this year? Or is it the same as last year's ranking? It seems to me that last year's was different, but I can't say that I remember it that well.
Looking at last year's bands by enrollment .pdf that ISU put out, here's how the classes basically broke down last year:

 

1A:1-699

2A: 700-999

3A: 1,000-1,599

4A: 1,600-2,000

5A: 2,001-2,500

6A: 2,501 + (smallest school was Lake Park last year at 3,000)

 

 

Now, if IHSA could get their 2009-2010 enrollments up, I could do a basic estimate of who's going to be in what class.

I'm going to venture a guess as to where the Lincoln-Ways will fall into categories.

 

LWE - 2100-2300? (5A)

LWC - 2500? (5A)

LWN - 1600 (4A)

LWW - 1000 (3A)

 

Purely speculation based on what i've heard about the new lincoln-way schools (Yes, West is supposed to be tiny)

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Now, with these class size ranges, does that seem to be changing anyone this year? Or is it the same as last year's ranking? It seems to me that last year's was different, but I can't say that I remember it that well.
Looking at last year's bands by enrollment .pdf that ISU put out, here's how the classes basically broke down last year:

 

1A:1-699

2A: 700-999

3A: 1,000-1,599

4A: 1,600-2,000

5A: 2,001-2,500

6A: 2,501 + (smallest school was Lake Park last year at 3,000)

 

 

Now, if IHSA could get their 2009-2010 enrollments up, I could do a basic estimate of who's going to be in what class.

I'm going to venture a guess as to where the Lincoln-Ways will fall into categories.

 

LWE - 2100-2300? (5A)

LWC - 2500? (5A)

LWN - 1600 (4A)

LWW - 1000 (3A)

 

Purely speculation based on what i've heard about the new lincoln-way schools (Yes, West is supposed to be tiny)

Idk, I almost think LWC may still have enough to make it into 6A again this year, however, I am not sure. LWE may come close to 6A but I don't think they will have enough this year, so 5A for them, maybe year after. LWN prolly 4A and LWW 3A most definitely.

 

Again these are just estimates as well.

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Looking over the IHSA enrollment figures, the most immediate changes I see are Eureka moving to 2A along with Macomb, as well as the possibility of Marian moving back up to 4A. Not sure how set in stone that is, but LWN should be in 4A as well.

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Looking over the IHSA enrollment figures, the most immediate changes I see are Eureka moving to 2A along with Macomb, as well as the possibility of Marian moving back up to 4A. Not sure how set in stone that is, but LWN should be in 4A as well.
It all depends on what bands sign up. ISU would like to have an even number of bands in each class, so Eureka and Macomb could very well be in 1A or 2A. Marian could be 3A or 4A (they went up in enrollment by 10 kids.)

 

 

I received a message a few weeks back from a director who received an email from ISU asking if they want to buy one of those spirit ads for their program book. He copied and pasted the list of bands (there were 31...10 spots still available at the time), and here's how the bands would fall at the current moment, if they used the projected classes:

 

1A (1-500): 0

2A: (501-1000): 6

3A (1,001-1500): 5

4A: (1,501-2000): 7

5A: (2,001-2500): 5

6A: (2,501+): 8

 

 

So needless to say, they will have to adjust, and get more bands to enroll.

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Looking over the IHSA enrollment figures, the most immediate changes I see are Eureka moving to 2A along with Macomb, as well as the possibility of Marian moving back up to 4A. Not sure how set in stone that is, but LWN should be in 4A as well.
It all depends on what bands sign up. ISU would like to have an even number of bands in each class, so Eureka and Macomb could very well be in 1A or 2A. Marian could be 3A or 4A (they went up in enrollment by 10 kids.)

 

 

I received a message a few weeks back from a director who received an email from ISU asking if they want to buy one of those spirit ads for their program book. He copied and pasted the list of bands (there were 31...10 spots still available at the time), and here's how the bands would fall at the current moment, if they used the projected classes:

 

1A (1-500): 0

2A: (501-1000): 6

3A (1,001-1500): 5

4A: (1,501-2000): 7

5A: (2,001-2500): 5

6A: (2,501+): 8

 

 

So needless to say, they will have to adjust, and get more bands to enroll.

That's very interesting. It's surprising that there are 0 1A bands as of yet. This would imply that, at least as of yet, Blue Ridge & Watseka are not enrolled. They are the only usuals I see below 500 enrollment, so I would assume that the likes of Eureka/Macomb/Monticello (if they are going, anyhow) are included in the 2A figure at the moment. I'll be interested to see the full list when it gets published. I still can't wait for the season to start.

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Does anyone know if there are any 1A bands yet?
I'm almost positive that Johnston City High School is doing it(since our band director said).......We have less than 500 so I would think we would be in 1A!!!

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Does anyone know if there are any 1A bands yet?
I'm almost positive that Johnston City High School is doing it(since our band director said).......We have less than 500 so I would think we would be in 1A!!!
That is good, it will be good to see you guys!

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Does anyone know if there are any 1A bands yet?
I'm almost positive that Johnston City High School is doing it(since our band director said).......We have less than 500 so I would think we would be in 1A!!!
That is good, it will be good to see you guys!
From what I understand, they will scale the classes. There will be 1A bands. I am pretty sure Eureka and IVC will both be in 1A.

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That is good, it will be good to see you guys!
From what I understand, they will scale the classes. There will be 1A bands. I am pretty sure Eureka and IVC will both be in 1A.
IVC should thank their lucky stars.

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Here's a very rough list of who should be coming, according to band's calendars (22 bands that I've confirmed) :

Lincoln-Way North

Lockport

Morton

Normal West

Prospect

Salem

Naperville North

IVC

Waubonsie Valley

Wheaton Warrenville South

Lake Park

Lemont

Macomb

Romeoville

Downers Grove South

Normal Community (maybe)

Eureka

Lincoln-Way East

Johnston City (maybe)

Alan B. Shepard

Urbana

Marian Catholic

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If I had to make a guess (this early, I know, but I can't wait), going off of what is confirmed and what is typical I would say things may end up like this (with some bands switching out a high possibility, especially given the two maybes that Dan already had included).

 

6A

Downers Grove South

Lake Park

Lincoln-Way Central

Lockport

Naperville Central

Naperville North

Warren Township

Waubonsie Valley

 

5A

Alan B. Shepard

Brother Rice

Collinsville

Lincoln-Way East

Prospect

VJA

Wheaton North

Wheaton Warrenville South

 

4A

Argo

Bloomington

Lincoln-Way North

Lincoln-Way West

Normal Community (maybe)

Normal West

Romeoville

United Township

 

3A

Lemont

Limestone

Marian Catholic

Rock Island

Urbana

 

2A

Dunlap

Geneseo

Metamora

Morton

Pontiac

Salem

 

1A

Eureka

Herscher

IVC

Johnston City (maybe)

Macomb

U-High

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I would think that LWC would go down a class because of the split, and that LWW would be in like 2A or 3A because of the lack of seniors.

 

And I know that Normal Community has a lot more students than West. Whether that difference is enough to bump them up I'm not quite sure. But it looks as though ISU is gonna be even more exciting than last year! I can't wait!!!

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