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    Band got a reaction from briar62 in ISU Results   
    At this point, most people are using something that at least resembles the BOA system and sheets- which was not true all that long ago. The most common variation is those that only hire one Mus GE judge (perfectly appropriate way to save $$ for hosts of smaller shows IMHO). The big issue I see is that we need more high quality, trained judges in Illinois. There are definitely some excellent judges in the state, but we need more. There are a lot of judges that lack high-level experience in the activity and/or don't understand modern marching band adjudication (i.e. number management). I don't mind not having an official state system most of the time, but having one would help ensure consistent judge training. I
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    Band reacted to Marchguy in Effingham Marching Hearts Invitational   
    1A:
    53.80  Heritage (Music)
    52.95  Bement (Aux, GE, Visual)
    49.05  Oblong
    46.25  Okaw Valley (Perc
    2A:
    59.65  Sangamon Valley  (Aux, GE, Music, Visual)
    59.10  Casey-Westfield
    54.95  Arcola
    54.15  Blue Ridge
    53.70  LeRoy (Perc)
    3A:
    65.50  Arthur-Lovington-Atwood-Hammond (GE, Music)
    65.40  Watseka (Perc, Visual)
    60.00  Maroa-Forsyth (Aux)
    55.20  Lawrenceville
    4A:
    80.05  Newton (Aux, Perc, GE, Music, Visual)
    74.10  Robinson
    72.90  Salem
    67.05  Carterville
    64.70  Pinckneyville
    5A:
    81.30  Lincoln (Aux, GE, Music, Visual)
    77.80  Centralia (Perc)
    77.30  Waterloo
    74.20  Taylorville
    72.00  Charleston
    6A:
    88.60  Washington (Perc, Aux, GE, Music)
    84.00  Belleville West (Visual)
    81.90  Urbana
    79.45  Champaign Centennial
    66.85  MacArthur
    1A-3A  GC - ALAH
    4A-6A  GC - Washington
    2019 Effingham Marching Hearts Invitational Recap.pdf
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    Band got a reaction from Notinband in FINAL ISU PREDICTION   
    7 Finalists from 1-4A (Class champions + the next 3 highest scores regardless of class)
    7 Finalists from 5A-6A (Class champions + next 5 highest scores regardless of class)
     
    At least this is how it's been done in recent history.
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    Band got a reaction from Notinband in FINAL ISU PREDICTION   
    7 Finalists from 1-4A (Class champions + the next 3 highest scores regardless of class)
    7 Finalists from 5A-6A (Class champions + next 5 highest scores regardless of class)
     
    At least this is how it's been done in recent history.
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    Band reacted to Marchguy in EIU Panther Marching Band Festival - Oct 5   
    10.5.19 EIU TABS FINAL.pdf
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    Band reacted to Marchguy in EIU Panther Marching Band Festival - Oct 5   
     

     
    From EIU's information packet sent to directors:
    Classification is based on a hybrid system which varies from year to year depending on the natural breaks that occur when band and school enrollments are listed smallest to largest. IHSA School Sizes are used to divide ensembles into Small (1-650) and Large (651+). Ensembles are then divided by band size. 
    SMALL DIVISION
    1A: 1-55 in ensemble / 1-300 school enrollment
      1B: 1-50 in ensemble / 301-551 school enrollment
     
    2A: 51+ in ensemble / 400-650 school enrollment
      3A: 50-80 in ensemble / 651-780 school enrollment
    LARGE DIVISION
    4A: 50-100 in ensemble / 781-899 school enrollment
      5A: 100+ in ensemble / 900-1,500 school enrollment
      6A: 100+ in ensemble / 1,501+ school enrollment
     
    Performance order was decided by the date the registration fee was received at EIUl as of Aug.26.  There have been some exceptions made for extenuating circumstances. 
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    Band reacted to saxyman in Danville Viking Invitational   
    I was out of town this weekend, sorry about that. It's done.
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    Band reacted to MaFt12 in Red & Black Fall Classic (NIU) Predictions   
    I happened to write down scores for 1A and 2A.
    1A
    7. Rockford (50.35)
    6. Marengo (53.60)
    5. Glenbrook North (58.10)
    4. Grant (59.60)
    3. Niles West (60.35)
    2. Wheaton Warrenville South (GE) (63.75)
    1. H.D. Jacobs (65.30)
    2A
    4. Round Lake (54.65)
    3. Argo (55.70)
    2. A.A. Stagg (67.85)
    1. Batavia (Overall Effect) (71.25)
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    Band reacted to JT2002 in Red & Black Fall Classic (NIU) Predictions   
    I can not find a score recap, or the scores in general, but I do know the results for 3A/4A went:
    3A
    7. Glenbrook South     
    6.  Kaneland
    5. Lemont
    4. Dekalb     
    3. Waubonsie Valley     (by a 4 point margin)
    2. Warren Township     (by a .5 point margin)
    1. Pike     (score was like a 75 from what I remember)
    4A
    5. Neuqua Valley      (their score was below Warren and Pike)
    4. Oak Creek (had a higher score than Pike, but that's comparing classes without a finals)     
    3. Joliet West      (over Oak Creek by .05)
    2. John Hersey    (a couple points between them and Joliet)
    1. Prospect    (I believe they broke 78)
     
     
    Again, this is just from my memory of last night, I apologize if there are errors, didn't really want to post this yet, but no one's posted the actual scores.
     
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    Band got a reaction from Notinband in Bands of America Regional ~ Cedar Falls, Iowa Predictions   
    Congratulations to all four Illinois bands on placing in their classes at the Iowa regional! O'Fallon, Lockport, and Marian Catholic perform in finals tonight. 
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    Band reacted to TheAngryBavarian in Gateway Marching Classic Discussion   
    RESULTS
    1A
    1. Mater Dei (Music, Visual, Percussion, Color Guard)
    2. Centralia
    3. Civic Memorial
    2A
    1. Mascoutah (Visual, Color Guard)
    2. Triad (Music)
    3. Mehlville
    4. Alton (Percussion)
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    Band reacted to Marchguy in Danville Viking Invitational   
    Class 1A
    53.10  Heritage  (Visual, Perc)
    50.85  Sullivan (Music, Guard, DM)
    43.8  Bismarck-Henning-Rossville-Alvin
    Class 2A
    66.80  Watseka (Visual, Guard)
    62.85  Mt. Carmel
    61.10  Unity (Perc, Music)
    59.25  Charleston
    58.15  Hoopeston (DM)
    50.10  Rantoul
    Class 3A
    78.25  Champaign Central (Music, Visual, Perc, Guard)
    71.75  Urbana (DM)
    GC - Champaign Central
    VITabulation2019FinalCaptions.pdf
    VITabulation2019Final.pdf
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    Band got a reaction from Marchingmaniac88 in Geneseo Maple Leaf Classic   
    I had a chance to look over the sheet. Some interesting findings:
    -The only band to band to be ranked first in their class by all 6 primary judges was Dunlap. They were also first in guard and percussion. Sherrard was first in all captions, except music gen effect where they were second.
    -Galesburg was first in music individual and music general effect, but fourth in music ensemble
    -In all four classes, the band that was first in visual gen effect was first in their classes.
    Point spread by caption:
    VI: 74-115
    VE: 68-144
    VGE: 79-144
    MI:60-161
    ME: 58-116
    MGE:59-162
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    Band reacted to Marchingmaniac88 in Geneseo Maple Leaf Classic   
    Class 1A
    Sherrard- 64.1 (winds, aux, perc)
    Orion- 55.4
    ROWVA- 54.0
    Galva- 48.1 (DM)
    Cambridge- 46.6
    AlWood- 43.3
    West Central- 41.0
     
    Class 2A
    Metamora-68.8 (DM)
    Kewanee- 65.9 (Aux)
    Rock Falls- 62.8 (winds, perc)
    Streator- 60.6
    Farmington- 59.1
    Monmouth- 54.9
     
    Class 3A
    Dunlap- 83.2 (winds, aux, perc)
    LaSalle-Peru- 71.8
    Rochelle- 69.5 (DM)
    Pekin- 68.9
    Ottumwa- 57.6
     
    Class 4A
    Galesburg- 84.4 (winds)
    Oak Park/River Forest- 81.1 (aux)
    United Township- 75.5
    Clinton- 73.4 (perc, DM)
    Bettendorf- 70.7
     
    Grand Champion: Galesburg
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    Band got a reaction from JT2002 in Providence Catholic Marching Invitational Schedule   
    1A)Could be close, but I think Eisenhower will take this class. They have been improving for the last few years.
    2A) Interesting that they did not reclassify based on registration to have more equal size classes, but regardless Waubonsie.
    3A) My pick here is Joliet West 
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    Band got a reaction from JT2002 in Lake Park Lancer Joust Prediction   
    Lake Park is a classic Chicagoland early show, just as Washington is for the Central Illinois bands. Lake Park, is one of only a couple shows in the state the follows the prelims/finals format. This is a relatively rare format, while in other states such as Missouri the prelims/finals format is much more common. It looks like there are 12 bands registered for the Lancer Joust this year over 4 classes. I agree with all of the above class predictions. This is a great show top to bottom. Some quick thoughts on some aspects:
    Class 1A: H.D. Jacobs is my pick in this class with a fairly small spread between all three bands. 
    Class 2A:  VJA 
    Class 3A: Lockport 
    Class 4A: Prospect, but not by a large margin. Greendale is a band we've seen coming down to Illinois to compete fairly regularly and they a great band. 
    Finals/Overall: Lockport and Prospect. Either one could be the overall winner this early in the season. I also agree with Notinband about VJA potentially placing higher. 
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    Band got a reaction from Marchingmaniac88 in Washington Marching Panther Prediction   
    I'll try to do a bit of a a write up for each show coming up on the 7th. This seems like a good place to start.
    Washington is a great, long running contest. Washington's facilities, great judging panels, and notoriously wonderful hospitality has made it a one of the largest contests in the area. The show is a traditional first show and early read for many of Central Illinois' competitive programs. Split into 7 classes the show features split award ceremonies, as is becoming more and more common place. 
    Naturally at this point in the season, predictions are even more speculation than they are later in the season, but I'll throw out some general thoughts. Generally speaking I agree with the above predictions.
    Classes 1-4A feature some of the best small school programs in the state. There's some exciting stuff here. If you're a spectator and normally only watch the largest classes, there's some stuff you don't want to miss in these classes.
    Class 1A: Exciting to see Ramsey competing for the first time, as far as I know, in 5 years. I do think Dwight comes in first in this class. 
    Class 2A: Could EASILY go any way in this class. Three fun bands to watch for sure. I'll go with Watseka if I have to choose one.
    Class 3A: I think this is going to be close between Tri Valley and Sherrard. Tough call. Tri-Valley is a perennial strong program and Sherrard is new player to the competitive marching band scene, but has experienced some significant successes and growth.  
    Class 4A: As noted above, these are strong bands. All three will be fun to watch. IVC and Eureka are not strangers to each other. Those familiar with Illinois marching bands know these two have both historically been contenders in Class 1A at ISU. I'll go with Eureka as the class winner here.
    Assuming there is a 1-4A champion, 4A winner will more than likely be the winner here. 
     
    Classes 5-7A just get's more exciting. There has been so much growth from these programs over the last few years. 
    Class 5 A:  Dunlap made finals last year at ISU and I think is the favorite in this class. I don't really like making predictions aside from class winners, but keep an eye on Canton. 
    Class 6A: No stranger to ISU finals, Limestone is my pick in 6A, but maybe not by a huge margin. 
    Class 7A: Like it or not, there are a lot of people looking at this class. I would urge spectators to not read too much into the placements here. These are three programs that will have amazing shows, and will grow and develop not only this season but over the next few years. Everything we know historically speaking doesn't really apply. Morton has a new head director this year, and I do not envy the expectations that people have probably placed on their placement at this show (FYI, regardless of how you feel about things shaking out last year at Morton, they made a good hire from what I know). Normal is only in it's second year in existence as a combined program, but lots of history from both individual programs previously. Galesburg was one of the bands everyone was talking about by the end of the 2018 season. Class 7A winner is the overall winner. If I absolutely had to choose, I'll predict Morton but with the least confidence of any of these classes. 
     
     
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    Band got a reaction from Marchingmaniac88 in Washington Marching Panther Prediction   
    I'll try to do a bit of a a write up for each show coming up on the 7th. This seems like a good place to start.
    Washington is a great, long running contest. Washington's facilities, great judging panels, and notoriously wonderful hospitality has made it a one of the largest contests in the area. The show is a traditional first show and early read for many of Central Illinois' competitive programs. Split into 7 classes the show features split award ceremonies, as is becoming more and more common place. 
    Naturally at this point in the season, predictions are even more speculation than they are later in the season, but I'll throw out some general thoughts. Generally speaking I agree with the above predictions.
    Classes 1-4A feature some of the best small school programs in the state. There's some exciting stuff here. If you're a spectator and normally only watch the largest classes, there's some stuff you don't want to miss in these classes.
    Class 1A: Exciting to see Ramsey competing for the first time, as far as I know, in 5 years. I do think Dwight comes in first in this class. 
    Class 2A: Could EASILY go any way in this class. Three fun bands to watch for sure. I'll go with Watseka if I have to choose one.
    Class 3A: I think this is going to be close between Tri Valley and Sherrard. Tough call. Tri-Valley is a perennial strong program and Sherrard is new player to the competitive marching band scene, but has experienced some significant successes and growth.  
    Class 4A: As noted above, these are strong bands. All three will be fun to watch. IVC and Eureka are not strangers to each other. Those familiar with Illinois marching bands know these two have both historically been contenders in Class 1A at ISU. I'll go with Eureka as the class winner here.
    Assuming there is a 1-4A champion, 4A winner will more than likely be the winner here. 
     
    Classes 5-7A just get's more exciting. There has been so much growth from these programs over the last few years. 
    Class 5 A:  Dunlap made finals last year at ISU and I think is the favorite in this class. I don't really like making predictions aside from class winners, but keep an eye on Canton. 
    Class 6A: No stranger to ISU finals, Limestone is my pick in 6A, but maybe not by a huge margin. 
    Class 7A: Like it or not, there are a lot of people looking at this class. I would urge spectators to not read too much into the placements here. These are three programs that will have amazing shows, and will grow and develop not only this season but over the next few years. Everything we know historically speaking doesn't really apply. Morton has a new head director this year, and I do not envy the expectations that people have probably placed on their placement at this show (FYI, regardless of how you feel about things shaking out last year at Morton, they made a good hire from what I know). Normal is only in it's second year in existence as a combined program, but lots of history from both individual programs previously. Galesburg was one of the bands everyone was talking about by the end of the 2018 season. Class 7A winner is the overall winner. If I absolutely had to choose, I'll predict Morton but with the least confidence of any of these classes. 
     
     
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    Band reacted to briar62 in Thank you   
    I would like to thank each of you who came to this site and either just looked for results or used the forums over the season. One of the main ways this site keeps going is through traffic to the site. I so wish I still lived in Illinois to be more a part of the marching and concert scene there. Keep coming and visiting the site. There are plenty of things to discuss after marching season . I plan to open a thread in the future as to what would make up your ideal show music wise and what you'd like to see as visuals while wondering who you  might like to perform that show. Keep coming, Keep in touch with one another and remember no fighting and keep it clean, lol Thanks
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    Band got a reaction from JT2002 in Saturday, October 20th - Illinois State University   
    Here are a few reflections/observations. None of this is a criticism of the judging or the bands, just some interesting bits based on the numbers.
    1) Morton scored higher than Marian in prelims by 0.1 then in Finals they were almost 6 points apart with Marian on top. Certainly, the focus and numbers management of judging prelims vs. finals is different but very interesting.
    2) In prelims, Dunlap had a higher Vis. GE score than Marian and Bloomington. Very different in finals.
    3) Elk Grove was the "8th Finalist" from 1-4A, the then scored higher than Rock Island and Dunlap in Finals.
    4) One penalty was awarded in finals, although it made no difference in placements.
    5) In both prelims and finals, O'Fallon and Lincoln-Way were less than a point apart.
     
    Other thoughts:
    Cool to see so many first time Finalists.
    Shout out to University who marched prelims at ISU, then headed to U of I, then headed back to ISU for Finals. 3 performances in one day! I know Morton has done that before.
    Also, wind.
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    Band got a reaction from ejn in Saturday, October 20th - Illinois State University   
    Given how big this show is, I figured it warranted it's own thread. I'll do a separate one for U of I, and then one for the other shows (posted probably Wednesday).
     
    ISU is the largest prelims/finals format show in the state. Hosted in Hancock stadium, ISU has 42 bands in prelims. Awards ceremonies are held after every two classes. Assuming finals format remains the same as in recent years, 14 bands will perform in finals- 7 bands are selected from 1A-4A and 7 bands from 5A-6A. Class champions receive an automatic bid into finals, and then bands are taken by order of highest scores to fill out the remaining spots in each grouping. Finals were cancelled last year due to weather.
     
    Class 1A:
    Eureka has won this class for the last several years and is my pick to repeat again this year.  I’m struggling with predicting the other placements in this class. University has been having a strong year. Herscher won this class in 2015. IVC and Macomb are both programs with rich histories and scored near each other at Limestone. Mater Dei has not attended ISU since 2004 when they placed 2nd in Class A. Olympia is also in this class and has strong showings at their shows this year. Going mainly on my gut and not much else, I’ll go with University in 2nd, Herscher in 3rd.
     
    Class 2A
    This class has gone to Morton every year since 2005, and I predict they win the class again. Limestone has been in finals twice in the last five years and is my pick for 2nd place. In third place, my pick is Providence Catholic. Lincoln Community was last at ISU in 2015 when they placed 3rd. Metamora was a finalist at ISU in the early 80s. Also in the class are the Marching Indians from Marengo.
     
    Class 3A
    There is perhaps no program more storied than Marian Catholic. Marian has won their class every year since 1980 and won finals since 2009. Bloomington was 2nd in this class last year and looks to repeat that placement again this year. Dunlap has moved up a class this year, but could definitely place 3rd in this class like they did when they were in 2A. Lemont (2016), United Township (2010) and Danville (1990) are all previous finalists competing in this class. Kaneland is also competing in this class.
     
    Class 4A
    This class looks to be very close between John Hersey and Rock Island. If I had to go with one I’ll choose John Hersey based on their past success in this class for the last two years. Batavia and Elk Grove are going to be looking at the number 3 spot in this class. Argo and Brother Rice/Mother McAuley are the performing in this class as well.
     
    Class 5A
    Every band in class 5A has made finals before- all except one in the last 5 years. Having already won a BOA regional this year, and returning after having the highest 5A/6A prelims score last year, O’Fallon is my prediction to win 5A. Prospect and VJA were in 2nd and 3rd here last year. I think they are in those slots again this year and close in scores. Edwardsville and Wheaton North are also in this class.
     
    Class 6A
    Class 6A includes three school district based marching bands- Rockford, Normal and Lincoln- Way. Kicking of Class A is the Huntley High School Marching Red Raiders. Huntley is followed by 2016 finalist, Naperville Central. After the break is William Howard Taft who is fairly new to the competitive marching band scene. Joliet West presents their show “without WORDS” in class 6A as well. Lockport is one of only a few Illinois bands to have made semi-finals at Grand Nationals in the last few years, and are a major contender in this class. Normal West and Normal Community combined marching bands this season. Both bands have individually made finals before, and as a combined band are definitely part of the conversation here. Downers Grove South is no stranger to finals, having made it 5 times since 2010. Coming off of their second place finish at DGS this weekend, Lake Park is poised to do very well. The returning class winner, the combined Lincoln-Way band is my prediction to win Class 6A.
     
    Finals
    It’s particularly tough to pick finals at ISU this year. I will say that I think O’Fallon, Marian, and Lincoln-Way are top 3. O’Fallon was 14th last year at Grand Nationals and is my pick to win finals at ISU (a first for them), as they continue the momentum into November. I think this will be a particularly strong group of finalists this year and potentially a few first-time finalists.
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    Band got a reaction from JT2002 in Saturday, October 13 Predictions, Discussions and Results   
    DGS Finals results
    Finals - Finals Results

    1. Warren Township High School
    2. Lake Park High School
    3. Bloomington High School
    4. Plainfield North High School
    5. Normal High School
    6. Limestone Community High School
    7. Rock Island High School
    8. Lakes Community High School
    9. Washington Community High School
    10. Huntley High School

    Best Musical Performance - Lake Park High School
    Best Visual Performance - Lake Park High School
    Best General Effect - Warren Township High School
     
    Grand Champion - Warren Township High School
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    Band got a reaction from JT2002 in Saturday, Sep 22 Predictions and Discussion   
    It's been a few years since we had predictions and pre-show discussion going on. So here's a shot at getting some talk going!
    Here are some predictions. These are just for fun and never intended to be a dig against any programs. 
    Wheaton North  (http://wheatonnorthband.com/falconfest/)
    Class 1A: Should be a fun class to watch. I would guess Lakes Community will win the class
    Class 2A: Wheeling is the only band in this class.
    Class 3A: I would predict Joliet West wins the class at GC. 
     
    Geneseo Maple Leaf Classic (https://www.gcsdstaff.org/Scherer/?page_id=2577)
    Class 1A: I honestly don't know enough about these bands to make a prediction.
    Class 2A: Look for Olympia to come out on top of this class.
    Class 3A: East Peoria on top, followed by Metamora.
    Class 4A: Washington followed by UT
     
    Naperville Central (https://nchsbands.org/marching-classic/)
    Class 1A: I suspect Naperville North will wind up winning the class.
    Class 2A: Buffalo Grove followed by Alan B. Shepard 
    Class 3A:  Lots of great bands! I think Lincoln Way comes out on top, followed by Prospect. But really this class could go a number of different ways.
     
    Plainfield South 
    Class 1A: Dwight D. Eisenhower
    Class 2A: Yorkville and Morris generally have pretty different approaches and should be a fun class. I think Yorkville ends up on top. 
    Class 3A: Kind of neat to see all the Plainfield schools in 1 place. I think Plainfield North wins the class and GC with Joliet west not far behind. 
     
    Mt. Zion
    Class 1A: Lincoln Community perhaps?
    Class 2A: Danville with Watseka close behind.
    Class 3A: Paris and University in the top 2 spots. Should be fun to watch!
    Class 4A: ??
     
    Monticello
    Class C/D: Tri Valley, although make sure to check out Blue Ridge and Oblong
    Class B: Prarie Central perhaps takes this class
    Class A: Neat class, if I had to pick one I'd go with Carbondale on top.
    Class AA: Champaign Central is my pick here as well as for GC. 
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