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  1. Scores for the weekend of October 27, 2012

    Ah. better understood now that you rephrased. I winced before when I read it. People like myself, while immersed in Marching Band may not know details like that and it can come across as overly harsh to the uninitiated. They made some history this season? In what regard? They're a solid program who finished out a solid season, what's more to say? They'll be rising for years to come. I think this person is trying to get someone to talk about their win at DGS. I think they made some history for that school this year and it is very nice that they won a competition and I give them props for that. In general I think they are a very fast rising band when it comes to schools. It is mainly since they never really came from anything substantial in the first place. Good growth for a school that didn't have anything really to start with. Well what I mean to say is that the school was created to accommodate students who did not have a high school to go to in the first place. The school opened to actually have one for several new neighborhoods. They did not say open for the major need of overcrowding so there really wasn't anything to start with since everyone was new. So in reality I am giving them so much more props for making it as far as they have and there potential growth forward. If you catch my drift. And again I would never look down on kids. We stopped that twenty posts ago and we do not need to think how that everyone is.
  2. Scores for the weekend of October 27, 2012

    Ouch. as was the sentiment elsewhere on the boards, ill reitterate: remember these are children. a little more social filter please... whether or not they didn't "from anything substantial", (and I really couldn't tell you if they did or not) any child who completes the seasoning let alone makes it through a cold long day like last Saturday was deserves HEAPS of praise, especially if you feel they are nudging around for it. These kids are stand out kids. Don't be stingy with support, especially within the community itself. They made some history this season? In what regard? They're a solid program who finished out a solid season, what's more to say? They'll be rising for years to come. I think this person is trying to get someone to talk about their win at DGS. I think they made some history for that school this year and it is very nice that they won a competition and I give them props for that. In general I think they are a very fast rising band when it comes to schools. It is mainly since they never really came from anything substantial in the first place. Good growth for a school that didn't have anything really to start with.
  3. Lincoln-Way West

    Outside of Illinois? a small band (under 100) that is an example of a highly rated successful quality program? I'd have to say Adair.
  4. Who wins 4A at ISU?

    ah well, still nursing some frostbite from yesterday. I find it difficult to post from a touch screen
  5. Who wins 4A at ISU?

    ...what. what "what"?
  6. Who wins 4A at ISU?

    I guess it wouldn't be a crime. I have enjoyed their shows as well as Marian's) I'm partial to lockport and vja, too. Totally was expecting either to turn finals upside down. To a point, lockport did. Secretly would like to have seen Morton in the top 5, but lw central would do too and is my favorite of the two. I don't think that's true... Not even remotely. I am 100% sure though by all this person's posts that they have a very strong affiliation to LWN and they have some cockiness to them. This was the response I was waiting for.
  7. Who wins 4A at ISU?

    if they get rid of just half the tarps they could take Marian's spot. I am on your side with LWN winning the class, however I do not understand your logic in saying that they are guaranteed to win. Every competition for every band has a different outcome so comparing a 3rd place in a small competition to not making making finals at a big competition is rather extreme. We also definitely shouldn't count out Lincoln way Central they never disappoint. Comparing PN to LWN though in this situation and any is like comparing Apples to Oranges and expecting the apples to taste better because they have before. This class has been getting more and more competitive every year so I can understand your prediction due to past years My logic is that I did marching band for four years and have followed closely for four years after the fact. When you see all of these bands and shows countless times for several years, you notice trends. You notice the bands that stick out way above the rest. LWN didn't make finals their first year. Then they placed 5th two years in a row. Then 3rd. PN made the jump into finals but stays in the lower side of the placements. They're improving, no doubt, but it not staggering enough to take down LWN. LWC has been dwindling quite a bit in the past few years. They won't even beat PN I bet. Year after year, when you notice the same general trends, it's a lot safer to make claims. That's why LWN should have no problem taking the class. It's not unfair or illogical to use past years- it makes a lot of sense. Well Lincolnway-North won the class this year like we both agreed on. However, maybe the gap will be closing sooner than you think. Is it not fun to play the devil's advocate. The point was more that PN was getting better than LWN was slipping. They're both only getting better far as I'm concerned.
  8. Who wins 4A at ISU?

    Wasn't there a significant staffing change this year? given lw norths director was moved to lw east and the colorguard director was changed to someone else (about half the guard this year too) as well as some other staff moved on). if its true, id say they did phenominally in spite of the changes. given that, I wouldnt necessarily say any gaps are closing. not hardly. you'd be hard pressed to find a program that didn't crumble entirely. kudos to them. didn't lwn win some captionsas well as their class too? I am on your side with LWN winning the class, however I do not understand your logic in saying that they are guaranteed to win. Every competition for every band has a different outcome so comparing a 3rd place in a small competition to not making making finals at a big competition is rather extreme. We also definitely shouldn't count out Lincoln way Central they never disappoint. Comparing PN to LWN though in this situation and any is like comparing Apples to Oranges and expecting the apples to taste better because they have before. This class has been getting more and more competitive every year so I can understand your prediction due to past years My logic is that I did marching band for four years and have followed closely for four years after the fact. When you see all of these bands and shows countless times for several years, you notice trends. You notice the bands that stick out way above the rest. LWN didn't make finals their first year. Then they placed 5th two years in a row. Then 3rd. PN made the jump into finals but stays in the lower side of the placements. They're improving, no doubt, but it not staggering enough to take down LWN. LWC has been dwindling quite a bit in the past few years. They won't even beat PN I bet. Year after year, when you notice the same general trends, it's a lot safer to make claims. That's why LWN should have no problem taking the class. It's not unfair or illogical to use past years- it makes a lot of sense. Well Lincolnway-North won the class this year like we both agreed on. However, maybe the gap will be closing sooner than you think. Is it not fun to play the devil's advocate.
  9. Scores for September 29/30, 2012

    Ugh... that expression just irks me for some reason. "saxyman"? in any event I have no clue as to the authorship of the expression. It seems to be a current colloquiolism.
  10. Scores for September 29/30, 2012

    yes, there almost seems to be an unavoidable bit of sadistic glee built into the class lineups.
  11. Scores for September 29/30, 2012

    For the record, I thought Lockport's ("Ritual") show last year was FABULOUS. I think I liked it at least as much as our own. At least. Maybe it was the acoustics, or the seating, but didn't much care for it at the Jones Dome edit to correct: Silverdome, but by the time ISU rolled around....WOW. It flowed beautifully. A lot of shows are like that. You just can't bet the rent on what happens during the season. It's a process.
  12. Scores for September 29/30, 2012

    Way to go Morton! Can't wait for recaps. 80.55 79.70 79.00 ISU could be a nail biter. And Glenbrook South and Lockport, both of whom will be at ISU, weren't far behind with VJA, LWE, and Prospect in 5A, finals ought be a cage match. Talk about a hot mess.
  13. Scores for September 29/30, 2012

    Way to go Morton! Can't wait for recaps. 80.55 79.70 79.00 ISU could be a nail biter.
  14. Parent. Marching Band Honeymoon over. Really dig it still. Public. Open enrollment, auditions for placement only. Parts will be added to accommodate every ability. Everyone competes or else. You better be at every rehearsal, though. You better be early and stay late. It was only after encountering parents from other programs at band competitions who assumed our program must have strict audition requirements because it was a popular headliner (at times) that I initially caught on to the idea that not all band programs are "open" enrollment. I don't think it's common to exclude any children, but the idea (erroneously) does exist that "good" marching bands are highly selective. Very, ability, health, or educational. Everyone plays, everyone is safe, no one is excluded. I'd share examples, but considering the scope of modifications made to the program and the type they are, it would make those individuals extremely identifiable. Yes. First in class at times. At times, we go just to watch and learn. To.....learn by example. to be inspired. I'd take a wild guess fundraising pays for more than half of the program costs. People say we are a "rich" district, but if you look at the per capita income, it's pretty meager. The district made sweeping changes, including numerous layoffs and program cuts. There was a genuine fear music would be one of them. Nearby districts did just that. All it takes is a referrendum. Marching Band costs were trimmed this year (thankfully), and our program appears to have scaled back participation and out of state trips. My friends who have children in another very competetive and successful band program question me often as to why our band hasn't been to Grand Nationals in recent years. All I can say is I won't be suggesting it. I love the program, but breathe a sigh of relief after October ends. I think my child does too. It's a HUGE commitment, an investment of time and money and the entire family modifies it's schedule in order to participate. There is a camaraderie within the community, I as a parent had not experienced until I had a child in marching band. During grade school and jr. high, it was strongly evident, but I had no idea as to what extent. I was a bit overwhelmed the first two years by it. There are yearly fundraising events the local, community anticipates and prepares for, not limited to parents or family of band members. There is less volunteer help (mainly to to failing economy) than previously, but always enough. Parents are involved to the point it's noteworthy with other band organizations, and not always favorably commented on. Strong feelings in either direction: 1...that our organization is successful in part because of it and it's to be commended, or 2....that our organization is successful in part because of it and it's an unfair advantage. Changes? Hmmm.....I hope we can keep some consistent staff positions. I've genuinely liked all the instructors through the years, but feel it hinders program growth when instructors are juggled, replaced, or move on. Then again, it's a testament to how successful the program really is. That no one person is responsible for it's success and that it's a community effort. It's somewhat comforting to see that type of resilliency and know the growth it imparts to your own child (and family). It's a testament to the idea that Marching Band isn't (or shouldn't be) built around a trophy case, and that the students ARE the trophy case. The positive influence the program has on your child's development and young adulthood ARE the goal. Single feature I appreciate most? <see above> The positive influence the program has on my child's develpment and young adulthood, and by extension, on our family as well.
  15. Reviews

    Was there no ambulance on standby at the Chicagoland Marching Band Festival?? Usually they are quite conspicuous. Did I just not see it? Did my eyes deceive me or was a student carried off the field in someone's arms, after some time and after appearing to fall to the ground and seize for what seemed a prolonged period during a performance? Pardon me, call me a sissy, but it was highly disconcerting that a performance would continue while a performer was on the ground and appearing to seize and appear to not be aware or able to get back up on their own. In my humble opinion, no performance, in spite of any effort, is worth that. I was horrified. Not debating, just needing clarification if "the show must go on" is the status quo, regardless. I'd expect if they had stopped, a redo would be allowed, but even if it weren't, horrifying still. I hope that performer is okay, my heart goes out to them.
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