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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from briar62 in St Louis Super Regional   
    Cheap plug ... but if you are on Facebook, join the "Greater St Louis Marching" page. We'll be doing live updates from the contest and a few behind the scenes stuff (like the draw board!).
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from ejn in St Louis Super Regional   
    Here are my finalist predictions:
    Broken Arrow
    Blue Springs
    O'Fallon
    Jenks
    Marian Catholic
    Dripping Springs
    Owasso
    Bellevue West
    Lincoln-Way
    Grain Valley
    Betonville
    Blue Springs South
    Clovis
    Fort Zumwalt North
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from JT2002 in Saturday, October 13 Predictions, Discussions and Results   
    Pretty sure the SIU results are available on the Greater St Louis Marching Facebook page ... please join if you aren't already a member
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from JT2002 in Saturday, October 13 Predictions, Discussions and Results   
    Pretty sure the SIU results are available on the Greater St Louis Marching Facebook page ... please join if you aren't already a member
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from Band Rookie in Scores for the weekend of October 15, 2016   
    Top 3 scores at U of I:
    O'Fallon 89.15
    Marian 86.20
    Prospect 82.35
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from tholstrom in BOA St Louis Super Regional 2015   
    I can guaruntee that O'Fallon won't make semis this year ... they are not going.
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from Dan Balash in Southern IL Bands   
    I’ve been enjoying this conversation so thought I would weigh in. 
     
    There was a comment earlier that Alton placed 5th because their show did not meet the general feel of the overall competition.  Interestingly enough, they placed 2nd in both Music and Visual General Effect (behind Eureka and Rolla).  In my mind, General Effect best defines the “general feel” of a show.  Alton’s execution is what put them in 5th place.  That aside, I’ve seen Alton twice this year and enjoyed their show.
     
    As far as the head-to-head competition question, I don’t see Rolla and O’Fallon competing against each other anytime in the near future.   So in the absence of head to head competition, I thought I would look at common competitors between contests.  Before doing that I had to dig into the scores a little bit and discovered a few interesting things.
     
    Before doing any comparisons, I needed to normalize the scores in order to get appropriate placements.  You can’t compare scores from one contest to another but you can compare placements.  Washington uses an interesting weighting which I don’t agree with – its basically 25 points for Music GE, 25 points for Music Execution, 20 points for Visual GE and 10 points each for Visual Execution, Percussion and Auxiliary (30 points total).   I believe 10 points is too low for Visual Execution and totally disagree with percussion and color guard scores being included in the overall score.  Percussion already has a caption – its called music – and color guard already has a caption – its called visual. 
     
    After normalizing the results for Washington using BOA weighting, things change – Murphysboro would have won the Washington finals and Rolla would have dropped to third.  Murphysboro placed very well in Visual Execution and benefited from the greater weighting in this caption under the BOA scoring.
     
    One more step – Edwardsville’s contest uses their own weighting (30 points each for Music GE and Music Execution and 20 points for Visual Execution and Visual GE).  If I normalize scores for this weighting, results at Washington would have been even more different.  Murphysboro still finishes first and Rolla drops to fourth (with Republic and Eureka in between).
     
    Just for fun, I also adjusted the Tiger Ambush scores using the Washington weighting.  A few schools flipped places, but O’Fallon actually had a wider lead (4.4 points).
     
    Now that we are comparing apples to apples (score weighting wise), we can accurately rank our “what if” scenarios.  I’ll leave it at that …
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    BlueStarsDad reacted to RSchwerdle in Southern IL Bands   
     
    1. Nerd
    2. Question for Dan: Does the forum not support Windows 8.1 and Internet Explorer 11 or 12? Can't get multi quote or copy and paste to work.
    3. I painstakingly place this link of Rolla from last year. Happily surprised that they were better than my expectations.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPM0m_SZ-N8
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from Dan Balash in Southern IL Bands   
    I’ve been enjoying this conversation so thought I would weigh in. 
     
    There was a comment earlier that Alton placed 5th because their show did not meet the general feel of the overall competition.  Interestingly enough, they placed 2nd in both Music and Visual General Effect (behind Eureka and Rolla).  In my mind, General Effect best defines the “general feel” of a show.  Alton’s execution is what put them in 5th place.  That aside, I’ve seen Alton twice this year and enjoyed their show.
     
    As far as the head-to-head competition question, I don’t see Rolla and O’Fallon competing against each other anytime in the near future.   So in the absence of head to head competition, I thought I would look at common competitors between contests.  Before doing that I had to dig into the scores a little bit and discovered a few interesting things.
     
    Before doing any comparisons, I needed to normalize the scores in order to get appropriate placements.  You can’t compare scores from one contest to another but you can compare placements.  Washington uses an interesting weighting which I don’t agree with – its basically 25 points for Music GE, 25 points for Music Execution, 20 points for Visual GE and 10 points each for Visual Execution, Percussion and Auxiliary (30 points total).   I believe 10 points is too low for Visual Execution and totally disagree with percussion and color guard scores being included in the overall score.  Percussion already has a caption – its called music – and color guard already has a caption – its called visual. 
     
    After normalizing the results for Washington using BOA weighting, things change – Murphysboro would have won the Washington finals and Rolla would have dropped to third.  Murphysboro placed very well in Visual Execution and benefited from the greater weighting in this caption under the BOA scoring.
     
    One more step – Edwardsville’s contest uses their own weighting (30 points each for Music GE and Music Execution and 20 points for Visual Execution and Visual GE).  If I normalize scores for this weighting, results at Washington would have been even more different.  Murphysboro still finishes first and Rolla drops to fourth (with Republic and Eureka in between).
     
    Just for fun, I also adjusted the Tiger Ambush scores using the Washington weighting.  A few schools flipped places, but O’Fallon actually had a wider lead (4.4 points).
     
    Now that we are comparing apples to apples (score weighting wise), we can accurately rank our “what if” scenarios.  I’ll leave it at that …
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from Dan Balash in Southern IL Bands   
    I’ve been enjoying this conversation so thought I would weigh in. 
     
    There was a comment earlier that Alton placed 5th because their show did not meet the general feel of the overall competition.  Interestingly enough, they placed 2nd in both Music and Visual General Effect (behind Eureka and Rolla).  In my mind, General Effect best defines the “general feel” of a show.  Alton’s execution is what put them in 5th place.  That aside, I’ve seen Alton twice this year and enjoyed their show.
     
    As far as the head-to-head competition question, I don’t see Rolla and O’Fallon competing against each other anytime in the near future.   So in the absence of head to head competition, I thought I would look at common competitors between contests.  Before doing that I had to dig into the scores a little bit and discovered a few interesting things.
     
    Before doing any comparisons, I needed to normalize the scores in order to get appropriate placements.  You can’t compare scores from one contest to another but you can compare placements.  Washington uses an interesting weighting which I don’t agree with – its basically 25 points for Music GE, 25 points for Music Execution, 20 points for Visual GE and 10 points each for Visual Execution, Percussion and Auxiliary (30 points total).   I believe 10 points is too low for Visual Execution and totally disagree with percussion and color guard scores being included in the overall score.  Percussion already has a caption – its called music – and color guard already has a caption – its called visual. 
     
    After normalizing the results for Washington using BOA weighting, things change – Murphysboro would have won the Washington finals and Rolla would have dropped to third.  Murphysboro placed very well in Visual Execution and benefited from the greater weighting in this caption under the BOA scoring.
     
    One more step – Edwardsville’s contest uses their own weighting (30 points each for Music GE and Music Execution and 20 points for Visual Execution and Visual GE).  If I normalize scores for this weighting, results at Washington would have been even more different.  Murphysboro still finishes first and Rolla drops to fourth (with Republic and Eureka in between).
     
    Just for fun, I also adjusted the Tiger Ambush scores using the Washington weighting.  A few schools flipped places, but O’Fallon actually had a wider lead (4.4 points).
     
    Now that we are comparing apples to apples (score weighting wise), we can accurately rank our “what if” scenarios.  I’ll leave it at that …
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    BlueStarsDad got a reaction from Dan Balash in Southern IL Bands   
    I’ve been enjoying this conversation so thought I would weigh in. 
     
    There was a comment earlier that Alton placed 5th because their show did not meet the general feel of the overall competition.  Interestingly enough, they placed 2nd in both Music and Visual General Effect (behind Eureka and Rolla).  In my mind, General Effect best defines the “general feel” of a show.  Alton’s execution is what put them in 5th place.  That aside, I’ve seen Alton twice this year and enjoyed their show.
     
    As far as the head-to-head competition question, I don’t see Rolla and O’Fallon competing against each other anytime in the near future.   So in the absence of head to head competition, I thought I would look at common competitors between contests.  Before doing that I had to dig into the scores a little bit and discovered a few interesting things.
     
    Before doing any comparisons, I needed to normalize the scores in order to get appropriate placements.  You can’t compare scores from one contest to another but you can compare placements.  Washington uses an interesting weighting which I don’t agree with – its basically 25 points for Music GE, 25 points for Music Execution, 20 points for Visual GE and 10 points each for Visual Execution, Percussion and Auxiliary (30 points total).   I believe 10 points is too low for Visual Execution and totally disagree with percussion and color guard scores being included in the overall score.  Percussion already has a caption – its called music – and color guard already has a caption – its called visual. 
     
    After normalizing the results for Washington using BOA weighting, things change – Murphysboro would have won the Washington finals and Rolla would have dropped to third.  Murphysboro placed very well in Visual Execution and benefited from the greater weighting in this caption under the BOA scoring.
     
    One more step – Edwardsville’s contest uses their own weighting (30 points each for Music GE and Music Execution and 20 points for Visual Execution and Visual GE).  If I normalize scores for this weighting, results at Washington would have been even more different.  Murphysboro still finishes first and Rolla drops to fourth (with Republic and Eureka in between).
     
    Just for fun, I also adjusted the Tiger Ambush scores using the Washington weighting.  A few schools flipped places, but O’Fallon actually had a wider lead (4.4 points).
     
    Now that we are comparing apples to apples (score weighting wise), we can accurately rank our “what if” scenarios.  I’ll leave it at that …
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